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October 22, 2007


Terrence Berres

What you're picturing to illustrate your claim appear to be a recent renovation and development. Where's the evidence of a bygone era of such things being common? Old memories, old photos, and a drive through an old neighborhood usually show garbage cans out back, and maybe even the concrete bunker for ashes from the coal furnace.

Greg Kowalski

Sorry John, but even those places you pictured above have a side and a back-end - a back-end of which Mr. Berres mentions garbage bins and perhaps an old concrete bunker for coal.

I encourage you to drive through alleys on south side Milwaukee - like Historic Mitchell Street for example, and you tell me if there's activity on all sides of the building.

I'd be interested to find out.


This isn't complicated: When you build a commercial business that thrives on customer traffic, building COMPLETELY AWAY from the nearby concentration of homes - - and cutting off access to boot! - - is counterproductive and counter-community. Giving up the entire side facing the neighborhood to a blank wall (in ADDITION to the "back-end" loading dock) compounds the sin.

As far as showing "evidence of a bygone era of such things being common," aren't we more concerned with the fact that this can be accomplished even in TODAY'S strictly zoned environment? Heck, back in 1939 you'd build a grocery store right on a residential corner. A bit more complex now, but still VERY doable.


John - perhaps you should talk to the neighbors behind Sendik's that you are speaking for. It was the neighbors who pushed for, and subsequently received what you dub as the "Great Wall of Sendik's". The fence was not part of the original proposal.

John Michlig

Raymond - That's part of the point I'm making:

A) Sendik's came right out of the gate with a configuration that "showed its butt-end" to the neighborhood; of COURSE they wanted screening, given what was presented. I did indeed talk to them.

B) As I've said, we've lived so long in a strip mall society, people have forgotten how nice it could be to have access - - via foot path, for instance - - to a local grocer and cafe.

C) A better - more transparent - planning process could have made the neighbors and Sendik's aware of the many advantages of configuring the store to serve the neighborhood as a true amenity, and the neighbors would have supported the project to a much greater extent.

Greg  Kowalski

I think we need to wait and see how the overall Fountains of Franklin project will turn-out before we start making assumptions about not serving neighborhoods and the like.

There was also an opportunity for paths to be created linking the rear subdivision with the Fountains and it's Sendik's - but once again, the neighbors refused that as well.

John Michlig

Don't hold your breath on "the overall Fountains of Franklin project."

Greg  Kowalski

Well I've known for months how much you have distaste for that particular developer, but I think many of you simply aren't giving him much of a chance.

What about the Legend Creek guy - who has that land for far longer than FOF's existence.


"Distaste for that particular developer"?!?

You are misremembering.

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