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July 23, 2008

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Raymond

John, what is your opinion on the entrances/exits to this development along Drexel? I think they are confusing and will certainly hurt business. For example, lets say I am driving west on Drexel from the library and want to go to Target. If I don't enter via the roundabout, there is no way to get in due to the right turn in and right turn out ONLY entrance in front of Target. Now lets say I finally find a way to get into Target, and I am done shopping and I want to go to go south on Hwy 100 to Hales Corners. If I drive out the exit on Drexel, the only way I can go is east towards City Hall. In order to go towards Hwy 100, I have to go through the roundabout in front of Sendik's. It seems like very poor site design for traffic coming or going via Drexel. If you are coming from Hwy 100, you can avoid these problem areas by using the new stop lights. The problem is that 95% of Franklin residents live east of Hwy 100, and will probably be coming from the east via Drexel.

Nick Aster

God I hate the name "Shoppes and Wyndham Village" .... it makes me want to vomit.

Have you ever read Dave Barry's proposal for an "e" tax? It's great:

http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/793

Scott Thinnes

Raymond, if you go south on Highway 100 from Drexel to get to Hales Corners, it will be a long drive.

You sound like you aren't too cool with the roundy-round concept...blessed be those who go round in circles, for they shall be called wheels.

The right turn in, right turn out situation is a design meant to appease the neighbors to the north. This prevents traffic from traversing all the way across Drexel either into or out of the R3E subdivision to the north. In the beginning that was a concern. In the original plan, that was the only alteration of Drexel planned. We'll have to wait until the shoppes builds out and the traffic reaches its peak, say at Christmas time, then we'll see how well the redesign of Drexel works. If there are a lot of people exiting the west exit to go east on Drexel, and alot of people from the east are entering and doing the 3/4 roundabout circle to get into the shoppes, that roundy-round will be crowded. At least in the winter there probably won't be anyone in the bike lanes.

I think I would have liked to see only one entrance on Drexel into the shoppes, at about the mid-point of the parking lot. A signal controlled three way intersection with turn lanes would have been nice.

John Michlig

Raymond describes the misshapen route I ended up taking; though I have no trouble with the roundabout entrance, it seemed to early to turn and I felt there had to be another left turn farther west, closer to Target. No luck, and I had to turn left on hwy 100 and then enter off off hwy 100 and across busy traffic.

Just one of the many, many design flaws of this site.

Josh Strupp

My wife received a new "friendly neighborhood" Target coupon book today. It was nothing special except that EVERY coupon in the book was for food. I've received many Target coupon books over the last few years (my wife's second home) and no coupons, until now, featured a food item.

John

Target cannot be blamed for following their normal course. It was our own city administration that set the fox loose in the henhouse.

It is poor planning dictated by the developer's desire to profit.

J. Strupp

...and I agree whole-heartedly John. But I also question Sendik's ownership for building in a development with a major retailer that is looking to cut their throats. I specifically remember Balestrari getting up at Carstensen's meeting last year and saying that he isn't interested in building in a development without an anchor retailer. You would think that they would make darn sure that the "anchor retailer" didn't conflict with Sendik's product mix. Guess not.

Judging by what I see so far, I think he might be eating those words in a couple of years.

Greg

Josh is spot on with the observation. Furthermore, the fact that Target openly lied to the city with regards to the wine speaks volumes.

Sendik's Fine Foods probably wouldn't have located in a development with an anchor that sells the exact same products that they do for less. No one does that!

J. Strupp

I wouldn't go as far as saying that Target offers the exact products that Sendik's does. I would say that Target offers some products that Sendik's would consider to be rather profitable (IF they didn't have their neighbor selling the same thing at a discount).

Again, I would question why Sendik's didn't feel the need to inquire as to Target's product mix (considering many Target's have been leaning more towards groceries recently). This just seems like a questionable business move in the part of Sendik's.

Raymond

See what happens? With all of these right turns and roundabouts, I got all dizzy and confused on my directions and turned south to head north!

I have no problem with roundabouts. I know a lot of people do though. I think people who are heading westbound on Drexel and want to go to Target to buy their cheap wine will skip the roundabout and then have to turn into the subdivision to the north in order to turn around and go back to the roundabout. How is that for appeasing the neighbors to the north?

capper

Dude, is that a mullet?

John Michlig

Close. Optical illusion created by the security guard's shoulder.

However, a couple of years BEFORE that picture was taken ...

J. Strupp

I was thinking the same thing capper. Kind of looks like a Barry Melrose mullet....you know, the mullet 2008 version....trimmed and groomed:)

A little more business in the front, a little less party in the back.

I kid, I kid.

John Michlig

All I can say is, it's VERY fortunate for me that digital cameras and the interweb did not exist when I was attended college in Madison.

A semi-mullet was the LEAST of my style problems back then.

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